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August 7, 2017 at 8:01 pm #12970911pilotParticipant
I’ve never done this scope of a project but I opted for a 4-speed because I thought I could get better fuel economy. Monster builds theirs with generic bell housing thats supposed to bolt on to all sorts of engines to include standard BOP bolt patterns, so Ill not need the bell housing adapter from D&D (saving me extra cutting/fabbing to accomodate the extended length. The adapter would have been required if I had gone with the 700. By ordering their “conversion kit”, Monster upgrades all their 2004R with OD with HD clutches and durable metal vice plastic pieces, they include an Edlebrock linkage set (TV cable) along with and bolt-on Lockout kit and an external intercooler. Did you consider a 200R 4 speed, was it not practical? Is the 200C that much smaller and does the 200C come in a 4-speed?
August 7, 2017 at 10:18 pm #12972felixjgarciaParticipantBe aware the bop bell is do not fit the 215 bolt patter if not it would be simple
August 8, 2017 at 7:28 am #12973911pilotParticipantSo the universal bell housing that apparently comes with multiple bolt patterns will NOT fit the 215?
August 8, 2017 at 8:56 am #12974felixjgarciaParticipantThe 215 olds /Buick pattern is the only gm pattern that is different from all gm bop pattern is different. The idea from d&d is the most simple one I am getting ready to do the conversion for my car
August 8, 2017 at 9:08 am #1297562cutlassconvertParticipantThe 200C is a 3 spd with lock up torque converter only. It is a lot smaller in diam, shorter, and lighter than the 2004R, making it easier to fit while using the stock console, associated linkage, and driveshaft angle. Don’t know about the Monster bell housing, but a stock BPO bell housing does NOT fit the 215. You need the adpt for a BPO bell housing. The reason to use the BPO housing is it does not stick up on the top mounts like the std GM housing, which makes for less clearancing of the tunnel and the trans housing itself.
August 8, 2017 at 10:33 am #12976911pilotParticipantOk…understood; I’ll still need the D&D adapter. Im intrigued by your research that led you to use the 200C 3-speed for its smaller dimension as compared to the 2004R. If the 2004R didn’t require extensive fabbing/cutting would you have considered the 4R over the C? I just think by adding a 4 speed will really make this car drive smoothly with lower load on the engine. Also, do you believe I will be able to use my stock shifter console on the floor if I go with the 2004R? Im adamant about keeping the stock look while gaining all the fuel economy and performance by going with the eddlebrock carb and the 2004R, but ONLY if I can keep the stock shifter and console.
August 8, 2017 at 11:13 am #1297762cutlassconvertParticipantSee pics on page 2 of the two transmissions. The 200C is attached to the 215 with most of the case relieving done. Had to do more cutting/grinding on the case for exhaust pipe flanges for easy bolt up after that pic. Installed pic shows the TV cable bracket bolted to rear of carb Don’t have any pics pf the tunnel clearancing process, it was a trial and error of fitting the empty mule block-trans combo in and out.
August 8, 2017 at 4:16 pm #12978911pilotParticipantWhat page 2, whats pics?
August 8, 2017 at 6:57 pm #1297962cutlassconvertParticipantThe 200C was recommended by D&D as the easiest to fit without a bunch of body clearancing. Trans with OD will be nice but will require significantly more changes. Longer means more difficulty in getting the drive shaft to line up without shimming it down more, bigger trans body means more tunnel mods, maybe cutting. Don’t know about the linkage but it will surely be tighter. Will the console fit, don’t know. Get a scrap trans cheap at a junk yard, gut it, keep the linkage detents inside, bolt it up to a engine block, drop it in and out and start checking.
I think someone here has done it and can advise better than me, or check the 6163Skylark site too.
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Good luck
August 9, 2017 at 3:49 pm #1298162cutlassconvertParticipantYou drilling your old flywheel for the TC or getting a flex plate and drilling it?
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