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May 19, 2018 at 4:24 pm #13710
I am trying to determine the difference in the 1963 Jetfire carbs that show 4 part numbers where the 1962 carbs only show 2 carb numbers. I have been under the impression that the change in design of the fuel bowl/float cover is the difference. I have seen both styles of float covers on 1963 set-ups. One does not have the “chimney” on the cover and is like all the 1962’s that I have seen and one does.Which if any of your three carbs have the chimney?May 19, 2018 at 8:47 am #13706
Thanks for the accolades guys!
Just when I thought this car is “ready to go”, I filled the gas tank for the first time this year (took ~10 gallons) and discovered that the gas tank has developed a leak. Will have to siphon the gas, drop the tank and see where the leak is. Fortunately, I have a Gas Tank Renu dealer close. I have used their service before and the results have been good. Always something to fix on collector cars!May 19, 2018 at 8:34 am #13704
I do not have a 100% positive answer but from the data in my records, and the addition of your tag numbers, a 1962 manual transmission carb should be 7022151.
JimMay 13, 2018 at 8:11 am #13684
Looking good! Will be fun to display at car shows. Here is a picture of the carts that the Oldsmobile GM Heritage Center built for their display engines. The engines could be rolled around but might be a little tipsy for transporting?April 30, 2018 at 8:41 am #13664
Looked up some old records of my Jetfire engine rebuilds and found the following:
1989 Jetfire rebuild I used the D & D reco GM cam # 1362245, stock for all 1961-63 F-85’s.
2013 Jetfire rebuild I used the D & D reco Crower cam #50228 “best cam replacement for the Buick Skylark 200 H.P.”
I rebuilt 3 other Jetfire engines but can’t find the records of the parts used. I have usually given all the parts and service records to the person that I sold the car to. I have used D & D, Dan LaGrou, for all my engine parts since about 1982.April 30, 2018 at 7:46 am #13661
My 1963 parts book is dated “Effective October 1962” in the front of the book. It does list “J/fire” for many of the parts so I have assumed it does cover Jetfire too. For the camshaft, it only lists a single part number for all “1961 thru 1963 F85” as 1164950.
In my parts book dated “Effective September 1961” it lists two different camshaft numbers; “1961 & 1962-F85 exc. Heavy Duty” 1164950 and “1961 & 1962-F85 Heavy Duty” 583043. I do not know what heavy duty means but it is before any Jetfire parts were listed.April 22, 2018 at 11:53 am #13616
I have made a chart of cowl tag info that I have collected for Jetfires. I do have all the production data for 62’s but not 63’s. Interesting to see the start of production and number of cars produced per week or time period. Appears like they didn’t start making “cars for sale” until about the first of April, 1962. Announced the new model on April 19 and didn’t have very many made yet! Have yet to see a 1962 Kansas City Jetfire cowl tag?
I have data on some 35 cowl tags and only see “2M” in ACC. on 7, 1963 cowl tags, none on 1962’s? Looked at the options on these 7 with 2M and can’t see anything in common for an accessory! Sorry Don, still a mystery.April 20, 2018 at 6:44 pm #13605
Yes, this is the page and links that I lost some time ago! Great to see it again.This has cleared up two cowl tag issues for me; first, the BODY code of plant and running make number from that plant only. Second, the IBM codes that may have been used for the ACC. codes. From this quick review, I stand corrected on Eric’s parts car, it is production #98 for Jetfire’s from Lansing-very early. Now I know that the IBM code for a 4-speed manual is 384. The BC – South Gate, California plant spelled out the 4 speed manual transmission. I still am not sure about the A/C option which should be ‘N’ and I have not found that code on a plate yet. I do not know what code was used for a vinyl top code color as I have only seen a ‘1’ and all of these have been white vinyl tops. I would like to know if they used the conv’t top code of ‘2’ for a black vinyl top? Anyway, thanks for the reference to this data again Don!April 19, 2018 at 8:18 pm #13598
Just a quick response to your cowl tag Eric. I have a hard time to believe that your parts car, made in the second week of April, 1962 (04B), would have been the 98th 1962 Jetfire produced. They were at 100’s of dealer showrooms around the country shortly after April 19, 1962 introduction. I have worked on turbocharged induction systems that date to the late 1961 time frame. They had many built before the official introduction, a week after your date code in April. I don’t know this as a fact, but that would be my logic on the issue.April 19, 2018 at 7:58 pm #13597
I do not know how to tell if the A/C is listed as an ACC. code on the cowl tag or not? Don’s car has M2 and is an A/C car but I don’t know that M2 means A/C for sure? The only code in the production and accessory list is N for 1962 A/C but I do not know if that is the code that was used on the cowl tag? I hope to hear from several others that have an original-factory A/C in any year 1961-63 F-85 and see what their tags list, if anything. Just trying to determine if the factory A/C is listed on the cowl tag or not.
I do not think that the number listed on the BODY line, after the mfg plant letter code is total number to date for the production year. I would be more likely to think it is the number from that production location per week or maybe per month? If anyone out there knows for sure, please reply!
There was a 1962 Oldsmobile cowl information website on the internet some years ago that gave the specifics of the various cowl tag stamping. It was pulled some time ago and now I wish I had saved it somehow, darn!!