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April 19, 2018 at 11:50 am #13589
I would like to know if Oldsmobile listed a code for air conditioning on the cowl/fire wall tag of any 1961 to 1963 F-85 models? In 1962 they sold 6731 F-85 models with A/C. If someone has a known “factory A/C” car, please let me know if it is identified on the cowl/fire wall tag. Would probably be on the ACC. line?
Thanks, JimApril 19, 2018 at 1:04 pm #13591macf85Participant
This topic has come up before in this forum. My car built with factory A/C. Here’s the cowl tag. I assume the “2M” on the ACC line denotes the A/C option. Hopefully this photo uploads corrctlyApril 19, 2018 at 7:13 pm #13593
How do you decipher the ACC codes? Two of our 62 Jetfire have nothing there and the other does. I looked in the production documents under the ACC and nothing even comes close to matching what is on my tag.
Also, Does the body number correlate to the actual number of 3147 car made or 3117 made and so on… If so, my parts car is Jetfire number 98 and was built on the second week of April.April 19, 2018 at 7:39 pm #13595oaklyssParticipant
Jim, my 62 had air conditioning and no stamps at all in the ACC line.
But a/c could be dealer installed and no way to tell. The assembly line manual outlines the installation, but it would take a lot of work at the dealer to install it.April 19, 2018 at 7:43 pm #13596oaklyssParticipant
Eric, thanks for posting that tag! That’s the 98th Jetfire made! Anyone ever see a lower number?
Save that car, it may be the earliest ever found.April 19, 2018 at 7:58 pm #13597
I do not know how to tell if the A/C is listed as an ACC. code on the cowl tag or not? Don’s car has M2 and is an A/C car but I don’t know that M2 means A/C for sure? The only code in the production and accessory list is N for 1962 A/C but I do not know if that is the code that was used on the cowl tag? I hope to hear from several others that have an original-factory A/C in any year 1961-63 F-85 and see what their tags list, if anything. Just trying to determine if the factory A/C is listed on the cowl tag or not.
I do not think that the number listed on the BODY line, after the mfg plant letter code is total number to date for the production year. I would be more likely to think it is the number from that production location per week or maybe per month? If anyone out there knows for sure, please reply!
There was a 1962 Oldsmobile cowl information website on the internet some years ago that gave the specifics of the various cowl tag stamping. It was pulled some time ago and now I wish I had saved it somehow, darn!!April 19, 2018 at 8:18 pm #13598
Just a quick response to your cowl tag Eric. I have a hard time to believe that your parts car, made in the second week of April, 1962 (04B), would have been the 98th 1962 Jetfire produced. They were at 100’s of dealer showrooms around the country shortly after April 19, 1962 introduction. I have worked on turbocharged induction systems that date to the late 1961 time frame. They had many built before the official introduction, a week after your date code in April. I don’t know this as a fact, but that would be my logic on the issue.April 19, 2018 at 8:51 pm #13599
I believe number per plant would make since. Maybe the 98th Lansing built Jetfire? All three of my cars are Lansing built.
Our original paint automatic cars is 5th week of May and is 869
The 4 speed car is 4th week of June and is 1997
With 1997 in late June in Lansing then the other plants would have had to build the majority of the others to get to the total by end of model year.
Oaklyss, Do you have the cowl tag picture of the blue car you had? It was A/C wasn’t it?April 20, 2018 at 2:31 pm #13602macf85Participant
Jim, I believe the website you were looking for is 1962Oldsmobile.com It is still active. Here’s a link directly to the Fisher Body data plate decoder:
You may have to copy and paste this to your web browser. I’m not sure how to make it a hyperlink. The codes seem to be correct….the S-384 on Eric’s 4-speed car tag correlates with the3-digit “IBM code”, 384 for 4-speed synchromesh transmission.April 20, 2018 at 3:15 pm #13603
That is awesome! I was absolutely sure this car had never been apart and converted but I had no document to prove it was a factory installed 4 speed. Now I don’t need a document, it is on the cowl tag! Thank you for posting that link!
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